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Saturday, January 07, 2006

Could Jones’ Ruling Affect Evolution Education?

Not every evolutionist is ecstatic about the decision Judge John Jones made on December 20, 2005. In a startling article published January 5, 2006, Lloyd Eby, a philosophy professor from George Washington University, stated that the judge overstepped his bounds when he defined "science" in his 139 page ruling.

As a result of Jones's statements Eby wrote, "I predict that sometime in the future -- say a hundred years hence -- this case and Judge's Jones opinion in it will turn out to be seen as having been like the Catholic Church's case against Galileo. Except that this time the winning and losing sides will have switched; the proponents of evolution and scientific naturalism will by then have lost the war against religion and ID, even though they won the Dover battle."[1] Possibly the prediction could come true much sooner than Eby thinks.

The overstepping slip by the judge amplifies one of the major arguments creationists have voiced against evolution from the beginning of this debate--evolution is not science! While evolutionists prefer an obscure definition of science, Judge Jones has now put it into law. This is very exciting for critics of evolution because Jones has made "science" definitive. The ramifications in the future court cases could overturn evolution education in public schools, which is exactly what Eby has predicted and is exactly the opposite of what Jones intended.

Jones wrote in the ruling concerning science, "Methodological naturalism is a 'ground rule' of science today which requires scientists to seek explanations in the world around us based upon what we can observe, test, replicate, and verify."[2] Jones went on in glorious detail defining science, "NAS is in agreement that science is limited to empirical, observable and ultimately testable data: 'Science is a particular way of knowing about the world. In science, explanations are restricted to those that can be inferred from the confirmable data -- the results obtained through observations and experiments that can be substantiated by other scientists. Anything that can be observed or measured is amenable to scientific investigation. Explanations that cannot be based upon empirical evidence are not part of science.'"[3]

Jones decided that Intelligent Design is metaphysical in nature. Jones has also written, while citing various sources, that science is by nature methodological naturalism and not metaphysical. This unmuddled definition has tremendous implications not only for Intelligent Design, but also for evolution as taught in public schools.

A fundamental position of ID supporters is that evolutionists do not define key terms such as "science". By keeping the public in the dark, evolutionists could write off Intelligent Design as religious while maintaining that evolution is scientific. This double standard might finally come to the public's attention because of Judge Jones' detailed definition and description of science.

Evolution is principally metaphysics based on many unprovable assumptions. There is no empirical evidence for macroevolution, and the evidence that some call microevolution is simple adaptation. The extrapolation of evidence from adaptation to macroevolution is not empirical science. Uniformitarian geology and interpreting the fossil record in favor of evolution is based upon the unprovable assumption that evolution is true. The Big Bang is also based on the assumption that evolution is true. There is much better evidence to suggest that the universe has a center and an edge which is contrary to the Big Bang Theory. See the DVD Starlight and Time for an understandable explanation for these cosmological issues.

Though Eby clearly is an evolutionist, his own honesty about the metaphysical nature of the origins issue comes to light when he writes, "How could an irreducibly complex biological structure come about through evolutionary methods that require gradualism -- that go against what is known in revolutionary biology as saltationism or the view that completely new living things appeared all at once in discontinuous jumps from what existed before?"[4] Eby elaborates on the impossible odds for the universe to even exist and he willingly asked such questions as, "where did it [Big Bang] come from and what came before it?"[5]

These are all metaphysical questions. If Jones's definition of science becomes known to the broad public then evolutionary theory can no longer hide in the muddle of fuzzy "science". As Jones' definition comes before the public those teaching evolution will no longer be able to present assumptions as facts. Origins issues and macroevolution will be exposed for what they are -- metaphysical beliefs with no empirical evidence to support them! In fact, logic and available evidence shouts out that life does not arrive from chemicals and a universe of matter cannot come from nothing.

When the time and circumstances are right some group needs to legally challenge the teaching of metaphysical evolution in public schools. What a joy it would be to someday have honesty in the science classrooms across the USA. Judge Jones has extended to critics of evolution a great and powerful favor by his definition of science now placed into law!

[1] Eby, Lloyd (January 5, 2006) What Is Science? Part II: Pennsylvania 's Intelligent Design case, World Peace Herald,.
[2] Jones, John III (December 20, 2005) TAMMY KITZMILLER, et al. VS. DOVER AREA SCHOOL DISTRICT, et al., (Page 65).
[3] Ibid. (Page 66).
[4] Eby
[5] Eby


At 12:33 PM, January 13, 2006, Anonymous Karl Priest said...

Following are facts extreme evolutionists don't want the public to know.

1. I am a recently retired public middle school mathematics teacher in West Virginia with over 30 years experience as an educator including administration.

For the last five years of my full-time career, with the full knowledge of State, County, and ACLU officials, I demonstrated to my students that mathematics proves beyond the shadow of doubt that evolutionism is nonsense. The students saw that the evidence clearly shows that every item associated with humans, animals and plants are Intelligent Designs and Intelligent Design is science because it is observable by billions of people trillions of times, always has been, always will be. I always let them figure it out for themselves and allowed them to believe what they chose, but at least they were exposed to the scientific facts that extremists want to censor from the minds of public school students. After the lesson a student from an atheist family said, "Evolution is silly."

2. Currently, as a substitute teacher, I have contact with more public school students than ever and take advantage of every opportunity to provide them with the facts described above.

3. Evolutionists are bluffing when they say their beliefs are scientific. Be sure to look at the list of evolutionists who refuse the debate challenge from my friend Dr. Joseph Mastropaolo. See the list at Click on the Life Science Prize at the bottom.

Karl Priest

At 3:29 PM, January 13, 2006, Blogger raxar1 said...

Your beliefs and opinions are your rights. Voicing your opinions are also your rights. Teaching your students nonsense is a crime. I am very glad you are retired. Unfortunately, it’s 30 years too late…

At 5:10 PM, January 13, 2006, Anonymous Karl Priest said...

Hey Rex Anonymous:

If you will look carefully at my post you will see that I am still at it!

Read this again, very s-l-o-w-l-y, and then pur your money where your mouth is.

Evolutionists (like you)are bluffing when they say their beliefs are scientific. Be sure to look at the list of evolutionists who refuse the debate challenge from my friend Dr. Joseph Mastropaolo. See the list at Click on the Life Science Prize at the bottom.

At 5:51 PM, January 13, 2006, Blogger raxar1 said...

I really don't care what people categorize me as. If the law says keep religion out of public schools, keep it out. I don't agree with many laws, but I still abide by it. You can teach your beliefs all you want on your personal time, but do not deprive my children of proper education which you were paid to perform.

At 7:55 PM, January 13, 2006, Blogger Jim Bendewald said...

raxar1 wrote: "Teaching your students nonsense is a crime. I am very glad you are retired. Unfortunately, it’s 30 years too late…"

Your ad hominem attacks only reveal that you have nothing substantial to argue about. If you have an argument, make it. But do not waste our time with your personal attacks.

At 8:00 PM, January 13, 2006, Blogger Jim Bendewald said...

Karl priest wrote: "I demonstrated to my students that mathematics proves beyond the shadow of doubt that evolutionism is nonsense."

Karl, could you provide us a link to the mathematics you are referring to? I would like to see your arguments.

At 10:15 PM, January 13, 2006, Blogger raxar1 said...

All I wanted was a little information until I came across mathematics teacher lecturing students on creation in math class... If a technician that worked for me lectured creation (or evolution) on my time, I would definitely have that person retire immediately.

As far as creation goes, I believe its bunch of nonsense. Of course that's only my opinion... if one day I find that I was wrong… shit, I was wrong. You people are up there with Osama... relax people r~e~l~a~x. People like you cause war and kill innocent people, just to get your belief across.

At 1:18 PM, January 14, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

And Jesus Said Unto Them…

“Speak not my name openly. Deny me. Sneak and hide. Violate all that I have taught you. Break the Commandment against false witness. Lie and cheat, that ye may deny the reality of even that which men have observed with their very senses, and reasoned by the power of logic. Go unto the innocent, and deceive them. When ye are gathered in secret, wink and smirk, and speak my name, but only then. Forgive not, and be not humble. And when ye do all this, be like unto the publicans. Take taxes from men, and use ye their sheaves and their lambs against them, to fund the teaching of mistruth to their very children”.

Oh, wait. Jesus didn’t say any of that.

At 6:55 PM, January 14, 2006, Blogger Jim Bendewald said...

raxar1 wrote,"People like you cause war and kill innocent people, just to get your belief across."

Wow, what an assertion! Where do you get your information? Or do you know this from personal experience? My sources tell me that the ones killing innocent people are the atheists, such as in China and the Soviet Union. Christians are by far the number one persecuted group in the world.


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